Colbert ftw again

[Ruckus]

and this is what gets elected to office in this country.....


http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/34842/The_Colbert_Report_The_Ten_Commandments.html


 

[rue]

You don't really like this country, huh Ruck?

It's the way you phrased that jab.  "Look what this stupid country put into office."

[Ruckus]

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/35179/Nike_Commercial_Spoof.html



 

[Zeradul]

LOL @ that Georgia Congressman.  He thinks that if we don't put the ten commandments in courtooms that (direct quote) "if we were totally without 'em, we might lose a sense of our direction" and then doesn't know any of them fully.  So Sad.  He was right though.  He has totally lost his sense of direction.  HE THINKS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS SHOULD BE IN A COURTROOM.  OMG.

DD, I don't know what you're referring to, but being critical of people in office is not un-American.  In fact, it is one of our checks and balances, proof being freedom of speech.

I'll agree Ruck can be quite alarmist, but with idiots like this guy in office, it's proof of a sad state of current politics.

[QB3RT]

ok i take back that Zera doesn't know all.  He knows all in that post. 

Ruck that was some serious ownage.

dude i can name more than 3.  That dumb congress man also said  "the 10 commandments is"

I'm all for the 10 commandments being posted everywhere... Bush and his faggots don't know any of them.

[Xenogear]

ok that is just sad.. SAD.. Is American really that desparate that they got to have to vote someone like this into the office?

[Blade]

I don't know. I think his election is an answer to all of those opposed to "career politicians."

"Why don't we ever see the 'working man' in office? Why don't we ever see the farmer, the construction worker, the grocery clerk?"

Everybody deserves a chance.

[Xenogear]

Well if that's the case, why does he deserve his seat more than countless other "working men" in the country?  Last time I check getting elected as a congress man is quite different from winning the lottery.  Yes, I agree we want honest/working men as our political representives, but they also have to know what they are doing otherwise they are just going to be the pawns or the laughing stocks of the career politicians.

[rue]

DD, I don't know what you're referring to, but being critical of people in office is not un-American.  In fact, it is one of our checks and balances, proof being freedom of speech.

I'll agree Ruck can be quite alarmist, but with idiots like this guy in office, it's proof of a sad state of current politics.

Ruck and I have argued politics over a year now.  I have never played this card before because he's never phrased his criticism in this way.  Read what he wrote.  Compare it to Xeno's posts as a point of reference.

[Zeradul]

DD:  I think Ruck has made way more offensive statements than that in the past.  I don't know that you can use that comment as evidence to say that Ruck hates the country.

Blade: Is it true that this guy was just a working guy his whole life and ran on the ticket of "Hey, I'm just a regular Joe" Or is he just an incompetent politician.  And are you saying that the farmers, the construction workers, are stupid people?  Because successful farmers and successful construction workers are some of the smartest people there are.  Also, competent grocery clerks are running the store within a few years, and the best of them end up owning a few stores later in life.

I'm all about electing a working person to office, but that does not mean he is free of scrutiny, or free from the expectations that he'll be well informed, and competent, because if he isn't, then people should SERIOUSLY consider not voting that person in.  Not everyone is qualified to be a congressman.

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I did realize one important problem with our government though, through that interview.  The asinine policy of judging politicians based on how many laws they've written or co-written.  What a CROCK.  I want to hear about the heroic politicians actively working to eliminate worthless and hurtful laws.  What about the politicians working to simplify the tax code.

[rue]

DD:  I think Ruck has made way more offensive statements than that in the past.  I don't know that you can use that comment as evidence to say that Ruck hates the country.

That's nice, Zera, but while you were analyzing my question did you also notice that it wasn't addressed to you?

[Blade]

Zera: I was joking around. I work part-time as a grocery clerk.

[Zeradul]

DD:  I think Ruck has made way more offensive statements than that in the past.  I don't know that you can use that comment as evidence to say that Ruck hates the country.

That's nice, Zera, but while you were analyzing my question did you also notice that it wasn't addressed to you?

What? You quoted me, you referred to Ruck as 'he'.  Who else were you talking to?

[Ruckus]

<n|inja> I was considering joining the Little Republican chapter at school.
<n|inja> You know, to further help those who can already help themselves
<n|inja> :>

Dusty 4 teh Z1ng !



haha : http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/35004/The_Daily_Show_Abstinence_Of_Malice.html

[rue]

DD:  I think Ruck has made way more offensive statements than that in the past.  I don't know that you can use that comment as evidence to say that Ruck hates the country.

That's nice, Zera, but while you were analyzing my question did you also notice that it wasn't addressed to you?

What? You quoted me, you referred to Ruck as 'he'.  Who else were you talking to?

The first question, in my first post.  He still hasn't answered it btw. 

[QB3RT]

did he edit his post?  it doesn't say anything like you are claiming now?

[DragonMage]

All of you, go to your rooms! Keep this up and there will be no dinner for anyone!

[Zeradul]

Oh I see.

[dusty]

All of you, go to your rooms! Keep this up and there will be no dinner for anyone!

NO FOOD!? I WILL SURELY PERISH.

[Blade]

STOP LIVING OUT YOUR MOTHER FANTASIES AND GET THE JB:POW TOURNEY GOING DM

[DaDolly]

I don't know about you guys, but I would be scared shitless of an honest, hard-working American in a place of importance in our government. My whole family is honest, hard-working Americans, and they are the last people I would ever trust with anything important.

Cheating, lying, corrupt, selfish individuals are doing the trick, I'll keep voting for them.

[Zeradul]

Cheating, lying, corrupt, selfish individuals are doing the trick, I'll keep voting for them.

NO They aren't!!! That's the problem.  We're still having success because the original framework and freedoms of the country are mostly still in tact.  Many people in government are working against those standards and are slowly chipping it away.  (Patriot Act, the FCC, for example)

Not to mention the National Debt, the pathetic state of Social Security, the Tax Code, Education, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, our dozens (hundreds?) of various military actions going on around the world, etc, etc, etc.

The current parties in power are not getting the job done very well, or at all in some cases.  We should immediately adopt "Instant Run-Off Voting" (This website will fill you in on what it is in one minute: http://www.instantrunoff.com/  --click the green link) and not only will this result in more accurate voting results, but also give people a real and fair option  for voting for a third or fourth party.  With the two party system, you don't get to make a real choice IF you choice differs from the two parties.  But given that choice, whereas you KNOW your vote WILL still matter even if your #1 guy doesn't win, gives you an opportunity to voice that preference.  Let's REALLY see who the country wants running it.  This will force the two parties to allow other parties into debates, and they'll be forced to deal with those ideas on a nationwide stage.

If we don't get this kind of stuff turned around and fast we are headed for a massive economic depression, at the LEAST.  That's assuming we don't provoke Iran (or someone else) into nuking us.

[DaDolly]

I'm not being ignorant, I'm being apathetic, and that is the cause of there being no reform. Why would I want to change when I am living comfortably, not dependant on health care or social security, have gone to private schools my entire life, generally support the Republican views on tax code and military actions, as well as their current regime? When I vote I am as selfish as possible, I vote for what is good for me, not for America.

Edit: And Colbert is a twat.

[rue]

Cheating, lying, corrupt, selfish individuals are doing the trick, I'll keep voting for them.

NO They aren't!!! That's the problem.  We're still having success because the original framework and freedoms of the country are mostly still in tact.  Many people in government are working against those standards and are slowly chipping it away.  (Patriot Act, the FCC, for example)

Not to mention the National Debt, the pathetic state of Social Security, the Tax Code, Education, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM, our dozens (hundreds?) of various military actions going on around the world, etc, etc, etc.

The current parties in power are not getting the job done very well, or at all in some cases.  We should immediately adopt "Instant Run-Off Voting" (This website will fill you in on what it is in one minute: http://www.instantrunoff.com/  --click the green link) and not only will this result in more accurate voting results, but also give people a real and fair option  for voting for a third or fourth party.  With the two party system, you don't get to make a real choice IF you choice differs from the two parties.  But given that choice, whereas you KNOW your vote WILL still matter even if your #1 guy doesn't win, gives you an opportunity to voice that preference.  Let's REALLY see who the country wants running it.  This will force the two parties to allow other parties into debates, and they'll be forced to deal with those ideas on a nationwide stage.

If we don't get this kind of stuff turned around and fast we are headed for a massive economic depression, at the LEAST.  That's assuming we don't provoke Iran (or someone else) into nuking us.

It's a nice idea, but consider:

There is no rule stating that one party can only submit one candidate.  In fact, as you know, there's nothing about parties in the Constitution at all.  What's to stop both the parties from having all of their prominent senators and governors run for election and maximizing their party's vote? 

Ex, in that example of the 2000 election.  The GOP would have McCain run for president, maximizing their "right minded, immigration minded" voters, Keyes to maximize their "black republican" vote, Jeb Bush to win Florida, Arnold to win Khalifoarnia, Rice to win more blacks and more women, and Bush to run on an even keel hoping to have him wind up on the most number of ballots and take the victory.

In short, it'd be the same result.  Every candidate in the history of nominational elections has softened his/her stance on issues to make amends with the maximum amount of voters for their party, the neutral voters and swing voters. 

Edit: Proofreading FTW

[Zeradul]

DaDolly: What's good for America IS good for you.  Secondly, if we as informed citizens aren't informed and vigilant in protecting ALL of our freedoms, liberties, rights, etc then when the liberty or right that means most to you is taken away, there won't be enough people standing up to help you protect it.  Are you familiar with this poem? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

DD, if you really think that implementing Instant Runoff Voting would result in the same result, then great!  You should have no opposition to it.  But the truth is that eventually it will have a different result, and when it does, our democratic process has succeeded.  Without it, our 'democracy' isn't living up to it's full definition.  As long as the populace can be scared into voting for the 'big two' with the idea that any other vote is a wasted vote, then you aren't giving people their first choice at each political office.

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Here's why I'm so passionate about this.  The United States is a pillar of human rights, and economic and technological success.  I believe it's our combination of Democracy and Capitalism that has resulted in such dominance, but that doesn't mean we have won.  The game doesn't end there.  Just because we sit atop a massive mountain of achievement compared with any other time in Human history doesn't mean we can't go way farther.  Farther ahead to a point where there is no starvation, no disease, everyone is extremely educated, possibly no war, (or very little war) and daily work days have been reduced to just a few hours a day.  Most people are employed with jobs they want to have, and people get to spend alot more time doing things that interest them.

There are only a few things that can stop this growth (nuclear war, a plague, a catastrophic economic collapse)
But there are a ton of things that can slow this growth (every unnecessary government program, losing rights and liberties, a bad education system, constant overseas military engagements, etc etc etc)

So while it might seem that you're living comfortably, but it's nothing compared with a life lived in a successful future, and that's hard to grasp, I know.  What we could achieve in the future is to today, what royalty in the middle ages is to a cave man.  And for me, if you look at your life, and your friends, and your family, don't you think it's great?  Isn't that worth perpetuating in the best way possible?

[kai]

ok that is just sad.. SAD.. Is American really that desparate that they got to have to vote someone like this into the office?

[Blade]

Two of those people are black, Kai. You are racist and thus evil. Begone!

[GeleshkA]

ALl I know is that I just finished to this...

[kai]

Two of those people are black, Kai. You are racist and thus evil. Begone!

ya i hesitated posting b/c i thought people would think that...then i said fuuuk it

[QB3RT]

ALl I know is that I just finished to this...