BBC -> 9/11: The Conspiracy Files

[dusty]

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3621606/The_Conspiracy_Files_911_BBC_hit-piece.avi

I hear this is REALLY good.

[stas]

did anyone else watch it?
i downloaded a file but i want to hear impressions of others as well.

[Zeradul]

It is well done.

It talks to the conspiracy people, as well as experts in related fields, and some of the conclusions are explanations of simple physics.  For example, when an aluminum plane (engineered to be as light as possible) hits the ground with thousands of gallons of fuel, it doesn't leave that big of a mark.  Also, with the fire that ensues, nearly everything non-metal is completely incinerated.  There's simply not much left behind.

Also, things like the lack of damage to the Pentagon is simple.  The Pentagon is built like a tank, specifically against an air attack.  The only part of the plane tough enough to penetrate the Pentagon was the fuselage itself, which does not have a large cross section.

The planes in the WTC did not start fires hot enough to MELT steel, no, but the fires were hot enough to greatly weaken the metal.

WTC 7 collapsed because the fire was out of control for HOURS.  No building like that had collapsed before because they had all had functioning fire suppression systems.  The underground water supply lines that supplied WTC7's fire suppression water supply (and much of the water of the surrounding areas) was destroyed when the WTC Towers collapsed.

They also look at alot of the misunderstandings that are caused though either mistakes, or simple lack of research on the part of the conspiracy theorists.  Things like the 'debris' field being 8 miles long in Pennsylvania was a fraudulent mistake, they typed the two locations into any map software, and the locations ARE 7 miles apart, BY THE ROAD.  As the crow flies the two points are less then a mile apart, and the 'debris' found were scraps of paper and insulation from the crash, BLOWN BY THE WIND.  Stupid shit like that, which went completely unchecked by the conspiracy theorists.

In addition the show looks at the roots of Conspiracy Theories in general.  Why people are driven to believe them, why they continue to exist.  The reasons are that Conspiracy Theorists use conspiracies as their security blankets.  The security blanket of thinking that something so horrific just HAS to be wide scale planned out to happen.  They are COMFORTED by the idea that it's not just some crazy religious fundamentalists carefully and meticulously exerting their own horrific violence out against what they believe to be their enemy.

[Zeradul]

Oh and if you need more evidence, the guy who produced 'Loose Change' did so on a Laptop he bought from RADIO SHACK.

[Ruckus]

wtc #7 crimped in the middle like a classic implosion and imploded into its own footprint. There wasnt even a single plume of smoke from the building before it collapsed and this is per multiple camera angles.  Smoke from the other buildings at the foot of the two towers, sure, those buildings also endured impact debris from the towers themselves and still stood. In complete and utter shambles but stood. And wtc 7 just collapsed. Sounds fishy to me, maybe not to you, but to me.

[Zeradul]

There wasn't even a single plume of smoke from the building before it collapsed and this is per multiple camera angles.

It must have been a while since you read or watched any of the 9/11 Conspiracy stuff.  The first vid I clicked on youtube shows giant plumes of smoke coming off it, only 15 seconds in.  Don't waste your time with the rest of the video.

The building was clearly on fire.  One thing I forgot to note was that WTC 7 had huge diesel tanks fueling the fire.  They were there to fuel the backup power generators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qWFVzBdM5s

[kai]

history channel is going to have a show about it at 9/8c tonight