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« on: December 18, 2007, 07:07:47 pm »

wow my first thread in the speakers corner! be amazed

I know its an old subject to most people and perhaps talked about here in the past, I've been watching this Joe Newman for years and am fairly certain that he is truly trying to make a better world for us to live in.. I know its a lot to say in one sentence. but I think it's his way of communicating with the world which makes him his own worst enemy. obviously he sounds like a genuine southern type poke, but then he comes and talks and shows us that nearly free energy is possible its impressive and undeniable.. in the past he tried to tackle the energy solution problem, (which would put me out of a job btw) and had valid engineers and scientists back up his machine. I mean if his machine could run a generator, then what would be the need to dig into the ground anymore? but at the same time it would put the world economy in upset and chaos. (if implemented too quickly) on his website, hes promoting water problem solutions with his machine, which I think is his way of putting a new spin on his machine idea to get people talking. I'm thinking ya know? he not getting any younger and perhaps before he dies, he may share his invention with the rest of us one day. (and I think if that day comes, it will be a wake up call for alot of us)

watch the movies on the site -its worth it

"the jewel of your civilization is it's creative people!, it ain't kings it ain't queens, and it ain't politicians, they are blood sucking insects!!" - Joe Newman
(I love that quote heh)

realize that he has been fighting the US patent office for many many years, and been on TV, Radio, and every type of media out there. like I said this would put me out of a job but I would like to see the outputs of this technology one day.

peace out

http://www.josephnewman.com/


 
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2007, 07:50:14 pm »

I am interested in this and all technology, but I don't have 45 minutes right now to watch that whole video.

But let me first say this.  The claims made here are grandiose.  What he's suggesting he's invented goes against dozens of laws of physics, the primary being the law of Conservation of Energy.  "Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form"  And so you simply cannot use a motor that is consuming 20 watts to produce the outlandish work he claims it does.

With that said, if he is somehow correct in his assertion, he would not only become the inventor of the most significant invention and discovery of all time, but also win every science award there is, not to mention rewrite the laws of physics itself.

So I'm a bit skeptical, but when I get a chance to watch that whole video I'll refute it further.

Edit: It's already been done: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newman_%28inventor%29
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 05:07:57 pm »

The wikipedia article is pretty superficial, but I've found quite a bit more information.....  The problem with his videos is he does not go into ANY specifics about his motor.  Without specifics he can't be refuted with mathematical calculations.  Why would he not give that information to prove his validity?  He claims its because he's "dumbing it down for the public", but of course the real reason is because that information prove's he's a fraud.

He claims noone listens to him and that he's tried for 20 years to prove that his machine works.  Well, that's a lie, because there are multiple "Free Energy prizes out there.  The largest being $100,000.  That would put him on the scientific map instantaneously, as I said before, he'd win literally every science award there is.  There are many awards for a Free Energy machine, because it literally means an infinite source of energy, and that means you could quickly harness that and become the most wealthy person in the world.

The test that Newman got the National Bureau of Standards to do reported that the machine only produces 30-50% of the power that it is consuming.  Meaning that they other 50-70% is being wasted through friction or heat creation.  So it's been thoroughly debunked.

In addition here's some more info about Newman:

Never taken a college level science class of any kind.
Has not let anyone inspect the innerworkings of his "machine"
He refuses to give the names of the "30 Scientists" he claims have sworn the machine's validity.
He has run for President multiple times
He claims to contact UFO's frequently
He claims God speaks to him, and has told him to investigate both solar power and the machine we're talking about.
He is married to his long time wife, as well as his own secretary, and her 8 year old daughter..... (at least until the state stepped in and put the girl in a foster home)
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He says God gave him permission to marry the 8 year old girl.

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So why does he do all this?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh??  Is he just crazy?  Is he a fraud?

Answer:  He makes a living off of scamming people


He sells his $80 book to everyone he can find.
He has lured many naive (not educated in science) wealthy investors to invest in his idea, (one invested a whole $500,000 )
He goes around the nation, and once even rented out the Louisiana Super Dome to "display" his amazing invention.  Everyone has to buy a ticket to see the show  (and many walk away having been tricked into buying his book, which he claims teaches you how to build one, but the instructions build nothing more than a improperly wired DC motor)
He goes to small towns in tornado stricken areas of the nation and tries to sell them "Tornado Prevention" which he can provide.

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He's a con man.  He doesn't have to work, and he gets to surround himself with naive people who think he's a genius and for a stupid person, that is it's own reward.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 06:46:26 am »

well paint me green and call me Kermit..
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 07:06:55 am »

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