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« on: September 23, 2008, 01:04:49 am » |
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So should we ?
Golden parachutes for executives ?
Why wasn't this stopped before it happened ?
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 01:13:53 am » |
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are you guys trying to integrate the speak forum into this one? get the fuck back you demons
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 10:19:04 pm » |
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I think Senator Webb put it best for the executives who should, by my estimate, be hung from the highest tree
" if you want a government dollar, you should be paid a government salary"
I say we draw and quarter the fucks, all of em. Oh snap ceo moneybags' kids will have to goto public school .... oh the luck.
of course Bush and the republicans want golden parachutes for all of them accountability has never been an issue in this administration.
FUCK THAT --- If I'm bailing them ou, I make the fucking rules !!
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 11:46:39 am » |
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you free market guys are so quiet right now....  |
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 02:44:19 pm » |
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Fuck McCain and Obama.
Couldn't we just revoke the 22nd amendment? I've never laughed so hard at a president.
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Blade"If we can put a man on the moon, we can put a man with AIDS on the moon. And if we can put a man with AIDS on the moon, we can put everybody with AIDS on the moon."
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 04:05:04 pm » |
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LoL Chavez is right and nobody can say nothing to that.
Could you imagine that in a few years former soviet union countries could be more capitalist than USA? That would be very ironic.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 03:37:30 am » |
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you free market guys are so quiet right now.... Wait, what? You believe the government should stay out of it right? That's exactly what any free market proponent wants as well. The Bail Outs are the OPPOSITE of free market, just like Chavez is saying. |
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"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table." - old legal aphorism
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 11:45:12 am » |
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I expected more from you Zera im so dissapointed
Can anyone here say Credit swap default ?
Your free market is gone zera say bye bye
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 08:53:04 pm » |
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Yep, it is going away, but the truth is we've never had truly free markets here in my lifetime.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, because we're on the same side of this issue.
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"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table." - old legal aphorism
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 01:55:03 am » |
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Here a little food for thought people
Hello to all,
I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a "We Deserve It Dividend".
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a "We Deserve It Dividend".
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 ! in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college - it'll be there
Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs
Invest in the market - capital drives growth
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces. (They should receive double in Ruck's book)
If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed
by one of our candidates for President!
If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG - liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC
And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Kindest personal regards,
Just think what 700 billion would be .........
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 01:56:14 am » |
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Yep, it is going away, but the truth is we've never had truly free markets here in my lifetime.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, because we're on the same side of this issue.
ummm Zera I'm all for regulation buddy. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 03:11:43 am » |
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Ruck, it will take 40billion in administration costs and many years to make that work.
By them, 200K could be worth nothing. You never know.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2008, 08:12:10 pm » |
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Giving away that much money would cause inflation to explode ;/
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2008, 09:48:47 pm » |
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I say FUCK INFLATION !!!  |
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2008, 01:41:05 am » |
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2008, 03:31:33 am » |
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So Ruck, my previous responses were intentionally mis-interpreting what you hinted at, in the hopes that you would clarify what you meant. They didn't work so I'll ask you outright.
It seems we agree on this here, but somehow you are trying to blame Capitalism and the Free Market for the acts of a corrupt and socialist government. Explain why the idea of a "free market" can be blamed for the desperate acts of a corrupt, socialist, and incompetent administration in Washington.
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"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table." - old legal aphorism
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 04:05:05 am » |
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How many youtube links will it take to explain that? A lot.
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2008, 11:30:13 am » |
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Free markets, I believe, are a good idea In theory but given human nature are impossible to achieve.
Washington is so bad now ... corporate interests run the show and have for many years.
Its so frustrating but what can ya do ?
and btw I quoted your Chavez reference for that prior link.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2008, 08:39:16 pm » |
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Uh, hate to shoot down this retarded $85 billion distributed to the people thing, but if any of you would like to take your calculators and divide $85 billion by 200 million, you'll find that everyone gets.............
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$425. Yeah. And that's before taxes.
Not to mention, if the original math was correct, a little thing called inflation would fuck that scenario up pretty fast!
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2008, 01:11:38 am » |
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yeah it would cost like 4,000 bucks for a pet snake  |
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2008, 11:31:03 am » |
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I can get you a Russian mail order snake for 3500.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2008, 07:42:34 pm » |
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