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« Reply #151 on: July 30, 2005, 02:59:28 pm » |
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So you gave up on all your diversions related to homosexual marriage and tried yet another grand diversion to turn this into some sort of 'oil people are evil - save the environment!' thread? If you want to discuss environmentalism, please feel free to start another thread on the topic and I'll be happy to do so. |
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« Reply #152 on: July 30, 2005, 03:29:21 pm » |
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Sorry  you were losing so bad I thought it might help. But then your losing this one too so *sigh* back to The marriage topic ! |
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« Reply #153 on: July 30, 2005, 03:59:56 pm » |
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* briman slaps n|Ruck around a bit with a large trout gay marriage isn't happening, give it up! =P (just to reheat this argument up...its starting to go cold  ) |
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Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) is a science of vague assumptions based on debatable figures derived from inconclusive experiments, performed by persons of doubtful mental capability with instruments of problematic accuracy.
Times I have been blown up: 2
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« Reply #154 on: July 30, 2005, 08:51:49 pm » |
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I've already offered to allow gay marriage, as long as tax breaks are not part and parcel. I have also offered to remove tax breaks from the table for straight marriages No, I understand that entirely that which is why I made the comment I did. That is a HUGE political accomplishment, and achieving all Libertarian objectives at once is impossible. However, you can work towards that, and when the costs are insignificant to achieve one of the thousands of goals on the task sheet then you've gotta go for it. Especially when it is one of the fundamentals of 'Personal Liberty' |
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"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you have neither on your side, pound the table." - old legal aphorism
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CycloWizard
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« Reply #155 on: July 31, 2005, 01:37:31 am » |
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No, I understand that entirely that which is why I made the comment I did. That is a HUGE political accomplishment, and achieving all Libertarian objectives at once is impossible. However, you can work towards that, and when the costs are insignificant to achieve one of the thousands of goals on the task sheet then you've gotta go for it. Especially when it is one of the fundamentals of 'Personal Liberty'
You keep trying to argue that furthering personal liberty for minimal gain is somehow libertarian, but this is simply not the case. Indeed, it's in the opposite direction, as it increases the role of government in the lives of citizens, which is exactly what libertarians strive against. Accordingly, the libertarian position is against all state-sponsored marriages. |
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« Reply #156 on: July 31, 2005, 05:15:36 am » |
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Right, and now think of that last sentance you said, and re-read my post. You can't win all your battles at once.
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« Reply #157 on: July 31, 2005, 04:33:55 pm » |
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Right, and now think of that last sentance you said, and re-read my post. You can't win all your battles at once.
So, the obvious solution is to move in the opposite direction that you intend to go? OK... |
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« Reply #158 on: July 31, 2005, 05:31:40 pm » |
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* briman slaps n|Ruck around a bit with a large trout gay marriage isn't happening, give it up! =P (just to reheat this argument up...its starting to go cold ) Oh it's happening and there isn't shit we can do  |
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« Reply #159 on: August 01, 2005, 03:41:09 am » |
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Well, I think that the steps are both in the same direction. But clearly we disagree, and that's fine with me.
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« Reply #160 on: August 02, 2005, 03:13:51 am » |
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this needs to heat up again. you guys are lame asses. I HATE THE HOMOS! ARGH! |
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« Reply #161 on: August 02, 2005, 03:35:40 am » |
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After what I did to your father, I can't blame you.
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